For years, whispers have swirled around the supposed tension between Sex and the City co-stars Sarah Jessica Parker and Kim Cattrall. Any time the ladies are asked about each other, they deny any feud, but let’s be honest, where there’s smoke, there’s usually fire. After plans for a third Sex and the City movie fell apart, it became harder to ignore the idea that there might be bad blood between them. From snarky comments to subtle shade, here’s a timeline of Sarah Jessica Parker and Kim Cattrall’s alleged feud. Despite all this, it’s still amazing how much chemistry they had as Carrie and Samantha.

February 2004: The Salary Negotiations

Back in 2004, the Sex and the City movie was supposed to start filming shortly after the final episode aired on HBO. However, things got delayed due to salary negotiations—specifically Kim Cattrall’s. Apparently, Kim wanted a significant pay raise after Sarah Jessica Parker received an executive producer credit in the second season, and she’s been harboring resentment ever since. “I felt after six years it was time for all of us to participate in the financial windfall of Sex and the City,” Kim said in an interview. She wanted to be paid $1 million per episode instead of the $350,000 she was making. “When they didn’t seem keen on that, I thought it was time to move on.”

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September 2004: The Emmys Drama

Fast forward to the Emmys in 2004, where both Sarah Jessica and Cynthia Nixon took home awards, but Kim sat noticeably far away from her co-stars. At the after-party, Sarah Jessica, Cynthia, and Kristen Davis were all seen hanging out together while Kim did her own thing. When asked why they were separated, Kim said, “Are we the best of friends? No. We’re professional actresses. We have our own separate lives.” It was a clear shot fired across the bow.

December 2009: Attempting to Mend Fences

Both Kim and Sarah Jessica tried to dispel the rumors by showing some class. Kim, along with Cynthia Nixon, attended the premiere of Sarah Jessica’s movie Did You Hear About the Morgans? to show her support. Meanwhile, that same month, Sarah Jessica told Elle, “I don’t think anybody wants to believe that I love Kim. I adore her. I wouldn’t have done the movie without her. Didn’t and wouldn’t.”